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Wicked
Snake Mite
USA
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 Posted - 11/07/2009 : 06:13:01
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| Hello everyone, just one quick question. What is better for a snake, live, pre-killed, or frozen mice? I know frozen mice have to be thawed but overall, what is the better choice for a snake? I have heard differing opinions from people, like live or pre killed is more nutritious than frozen, live prey will hurt a snake in self defense, live prey can't hurt a snake, etc. If anyone could clear this up, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks in Advance. |
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Grumpy
Hatchling
United Kingdom
138 Posts |
Posted - 11/07/2009 : 11:41:04
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Originally posted by Wicked
Hello everyone, just one quick question. What is better for a snake, live, pre-killed, or frozen mice? I know frozen mice have to be thawed but overall, what is the better choice for a snake? I have heard differing opinions from people, like live or pre killed is more nutritious than frozen, live prey will hurt a snake in self defense, live prey can't hurt a snake, etc. If anyone could clear this up, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks in Advance.
Live food can injure a snake and isn't a good idea. It is illegal to sell animals as live feed. No idea if there's any difference between frozen and pre killed, we've always used frozen, mainly for convenience. |
IanT
Blair's grey band
Albino cali female
Albino grey band female
Chocolate Cali
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jono2411
Yearling
United Kingdom
655 Posts |
Posted - 11/07/2009 : 11:58:55
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| there is no problem with using F/T mice... the only difference really in terms of nutrition etc is personal choice... |
1.0.0 Mexican Black Kingsnake : Baron Samedi
0.0.1 Apricot Pueblan Milksnake : (Hercule) Poirot
0.1.0 Striped Splotched Sinaloan Milksnake : Arminia
0.1.0 Pueblacorn - Cleopatra
0.0.3 Fire-Bellied Toads: Ghengis Khan, Bruce Lee & Chairman Mao
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Gingerpony
SerpentSeven's Evil Twin
United Kingdom
726 Posts |
Posted - 11/07/2009 : 12:21:01
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live has to be an almost-last resort for a non-feeder (the very last resort being a force feed IMO)
1 of my boas i've got feeding on live but i keep trying with frozen/thawed which he occasionally takes. it's not nice, it is risky but on the other hand, it's common-place in, for example, America. |
cornsnakes, ratsnakes, Dumerils boas, BCO hybrids, Sinder Hypo boas, Day Geckos
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jono2411
Yearling
United Kingdom
655 Posts |
Posted - 11/07/2009 : 12:21:54
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| and who wants to use what the americans think is a good idea? ;O |
1.0.0 Mexican Black Kingsnake : Baron Samedi
0.0.1 Apricot Pueblan Milksnake : (Hercule) Poirot
0.1.0 Striped Splotched Sinaloan Milksnake : Arminia
0.1.0 Pueblacorn - Cleopatra
0.0.3 Fire-Bellied Toads: Ghengis Khan, Bruce Lee & Chairman Mao
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lee2308
Kingsnake Forum Admin
United Kingdom
1609 Posts |
Posted - 11/07/2009 : 13:52:53
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| i would of thought prekilled was the best,more attractive to the snake as it will be the right temp ect and more nutricious as some nutriants are lost during the freezing process |
1.0 dumeril boa,0.1 bci boa,1.0 royal python,1.0 mbk kingsnake,1.0corn,1.2 chinese water dragon,0.0.1 bearded dragon
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Gingerpony
SerpentSeven's Evil Twin
United Kingdom
726 Posts |
Posted - 11/07/2009 : 14:31:10
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Originally posted by lee2308
i would of thought prekilled was the best,more attractive to the snake as it will be the right temp ect and more nutricious as some nutriants are lost during the freezing process
prekilled as in fresh killed?   |
cornsnakes, ratsnakes, Dumerils boas, BCO hybrids, Sinder Hypo boas, Day Geckos
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Wicked
Snake Mite
USA
3 Posts |
Posted - 11/07/2009 : 15:33:02
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| So F/T is the way to go? I am getting a Mexican Black hatchling so feeding it F/T right away would get it accustomed to F/T or is F/T bad for a hatchling? Sorry if they seem like stupid questions, this is gonna be my first snake. |
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lee2308
Kingsnake Forum Admin
United Kingdom
1609 Posts |
Posted - 11/07/2009 : 16:12:19
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| f/t is fine for hatchlings,it's hows its done over here all the time,if you start off with live they might not change over. |
1.0 dumeril boa,0.1 bci boa,1.0 royal python,1.0 mbk kingsnake,1.0corn,1.2 chinese water dragon,0.0.1 bearded dragon
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magneticblue
Kingsnake Forum Admin
United Kingdom
1511 Posts |
Posted - 11/07/2009 : 16:31:24
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| I think freshly killed probably will be ever so slightly better than frozen, but frozen is much more convenient than getting hold of fresh food all the time |
1.1.0 Arizona mountain king (Sylar and Claire)
0.1.0 Blotched king ( Jasmin)
1.1.0 Guyana red-tail boa (Hercules and Athena)
1.0.1 children (Alfie and BUMP)
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jono2411
Yearling
United Kingdom
655 Posts |
Posted - 11/07/2009 : 19:15:12
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| a mexi black will take F/T no problem, and if there is any nutirent loss during the freezing it is so minimal that it makes no difference |
1.0.0 Mexican Black Kingsnake : Baron Samedi
0.0.1 Apricot Pueblan Milksnake : (Hercule) Poirot
0.1.0 Striped Splotched Sinaloan Milksnake : Arminia
0.1.0 Pueblacorn - Cleopatra
0.0.3 Fire-Bellied Toads: Ghengis Khan, Bruce Lee & Chairman Mao
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Kehhlyr
The Resident Loon
United Kingdom
511 Posts |
Posted - 11/07/2009 : 20:31:45
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Strangely enough, live feeding is NOT illegal in this country, it's just frowned upon by SOME people because there are idiots out there that will live feed for entertainment purposes.
Live feeding is a grey area in regards the law, it's illegal to be cruel to an animal, but it's not ilegal to live feed.
But live feeding just because 'you can' is cruel, therefore illegal. But live feeding to ensure the survival of a snake is NOT illegal. |
-=Kehhlyr - The Resident Loon
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Wicked
Snake Mite
USA
3 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2009 : 02:38:57
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| From what I read, I am gonna go with F/T as it is more convenient than pre-killed. Thanks for all the help everyone. |
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jono2411
Yearling
United Kingdom
655 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2009 : 11:17:21
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| i f/t all mine but there is a part of me that wants to live feed because it is facinating to watch a snake hunting but luckily i can get my fill of that on youtube... |
1.0.0 Mexican Black Kingsnake : Baron Samedi
0.0.1 Apricot Pueblan Milksnake : (Hercule) Poirot
0.1.0 Striped Splotched Sinaloan Milksnake : Arminia
0.1.0 Pueblacorn - Cleopatra
0.0.3 Fire-Bellied Toads: Ghengis Khan, Bruce Lee & Chairman Mao
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magneticblue
Kingsnake Forum Admin
United Kingdom
1511 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2009 : 13:31:55
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Originally posted by jono2411
i f/t all mine but there is a part of me that wants to live feed because it is facinating to watch a snake hunting but luckily i can get my fill of that on youtube...
I'm quite the opposite.
A frozen rat to me is just a food item for the snake
A live rat is a living, breathing creature and I don't think I could put one in with my snakes knowing that I was sending it to its death. Not saying its wrong, just that I wouldn't be able to do it |
1.1.0 Arizona mountain king (Sylar and Claire)
0.1.0 Blotched king ( Jasmin)
1.1.0 Guyana red-tail boa (Hercules and Athena)
1.0.1 children (Alfie and BUMP)
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Blackecho
Kingsnake Forum Admin
United Kingdom
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