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Kazerella
King Snake Admin

United Kingdom
1512 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2009 :  16:07:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've just seen something strange.

I'm cleaning out the monster snake vivs (Trilby and Nagini) and because between them they have so much stuff I have to wash and disinfect it in the bath. Put Trilby's stuff in ok, then moved Nagini's stuff in and there was some poo on the side of her hide (dirty she is). Only trouble is it was fizzing in the water - like alca-selzar in water. Never seen that before. Wonder why that happened?

lee2308
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Posted - 09/04/2009 :  16:56:41  Show Profile  Click to see lee2308's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
been feeding her space dust again?

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magneticblue
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United Kingdom
1511 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2009 :  17:00:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bizarre


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Kehhlyr
The Resident Loon

United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/04/2009 :  17:42:08  Show Profile  Click to see Kehhlyr's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Could have been because of the calcium in the poo.

looky here, stolen from a website:

In what way and in what form does calcium react with water?

Contrary to magnesium placed directly above calcium in the periodic chart, elementary calcium reacts with water at room temperature, according to the following reaction mechanism:

Ca (s) + 2H2O (g) -> Ca(OH)2 (aq) + H2 (g)

This reaction forms calcium hydroxide that dissolves in water as a soda, and hydrogen gas.

Other important calcium reaction mechanisms are erosion reactions. These usually occur when carbon dioxide is present. Under normal conditions calcium carbonate is water insoluble. When carbon dioxide is present carbonic acid is formed, affecting calcium compounds.

The reaction mechanism for carbon weathering is:

H2O + CO2 -> H2CO3 and CaCO3 + H2CO3 -> Ca(HCO3)2

And the total reaction mechanism:

CaCO3 (s) + CO2 (g) + 2H2O (l) -> Ca2+ (aq) + 2 HCO3- (aq)

The product is calcium hydrogen carbonate.

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magneticblue
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/04/2009 :  20:07:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
How the hell did you find that!


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Gingerpony
SerpentSeven's Evil Twin

United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/04/2009 :  20:30:52  Show Profile  Click to see Gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
very impressive Kehhlyr, i'd go with that theory!!

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lee2308
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Posted - 09/04/2009 :  21:51:56  Show Profile  Click to see lee2308's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
i was going to say that but didnt think any one would follow it.lol

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Carl
Hatchling

United Kingdom
498 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2009 :  22:29:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kehhlyr

Could have been because of the calcium in the poo.

looky here, stolen from a website:

In what way and in what form does calcium react with water?

Contrary to magnesium placed directly above calcium in the periodic chart, elementary calcium reacts with water at room temperature, according to the following reaction mechanism:

Ca (s) + 2H2O (g) -> Ca(OH)2 (aq) + H2 (g)

This reaction forms calcium hydroxide that dissolves in water as a soda, and hydrogen gas.

Other important calcium reaction mechanisms are erosion reactions. These usually occur when carbon dioxide is present. Under normal conditions calcium carbonate is water insoluble. When carbon dioxide is present carbonic acid is formed, affecting calcium compounds.

The reaction mechanism for carbon weathering is:

H2O + CO2 -> H2CO3 and CaCO3 + H2CO3 -> Ca(HCO3)2

And the total reaction mechanism:

CaCO3 (s) + CO2 (g) + 2H2O (l) -> Ca2+ (aq) + 2 HCO3- (aq)

The product is calcium hydrogen carbonate.


I agree totaly, Especialy the bit about H20 + C02-> H2C03
+CaC03 + H2C03 -> Ca(HC03)2 thats spot on

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Kehhlyr
The Resident Loon

United Kingdom
511 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2009 :  22:40:37  Show Profile  Click to see Kehhlyr's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I know, It was the simplest and easiest thing that could be why poo fizzes.

Maybe that should be a sticky Kaz?

Fizzy poo is because H2O + CO2 -> H2CO3 and CaCO3 + H2CO3 -> Ca(HCO3)2

Makes sense, doesn't it.






quote:
Originally posted by magneticblue

How the hell did you find that!


I can remember reading once about calcium reacting with water, and seeing as there's calcium in snake poo (the yellowy-white stuff) I decided to look it up.
It seemed a plausable explanation.
I have to much time on my hands as well.

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Edited by - Kehhlyr on 09/04/2009 22:44:12
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Kazerella
King Snake Admin

United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/04/2009 :  10:25:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sounds good Kehhlyr

You can have 3 gold stars

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Carl
Hatchling

United Kingdom
498 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2009 :  14:55:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I wouldnt mind 3 gold stars how do you get them?

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magneticblue
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Posted - 10/04/2009 :  14:57:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:

I can remember reading once about calcium reacting with water, and seeing as there's calcium in snake poo (the yellowy-white stuff) I decided to look it up.
It seemed a plausable explanation.
I have to much time on my hands as well.



Well done to you anyway


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Kehhlyr
The Resident Loon

United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/04/2009 :  15:13:05  Show Profile  Click to see Kehhlyr's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Carl

I wouldnt mind 3 gold stars how do you get them?



The easiest way is by telling everyone and anyway that Kaz is the best.

If you do it properly, she gives you a 'get out of kingering' card as well.


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lee2308
Kingsnake Forum Admin

United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/04/2009 :  16:12:41  Show Profile  Click to see lee2308's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
got my "get out of kingering card"

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magneticblue
Kingsnake Forum Admin

United Kingdom
1511 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2009 :  23:19:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hold on. I still dont have a 'get out of Kingering' card


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magneticblue
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Posted - 10/04/2009 :  23:20:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Carl

I wouldnt mind 3 gold stars how do you get them?



You get 300 posts.

This is my 300th post


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