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t_king
Egg

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Posted - 08/11/2008 :  08:07:16  Show Profile  Click to see t_king's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Can someone please explain the difference between:

Sinaloan
Pueblan Milk Snake
and Arizona Mountain Kingsnake

To me they all look the same.
Sorry if its a lame question

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magneticblue
Kingsnake Forum Admin

United Kingdom
1511 Posts

Posted - 08/11/2008 :  11:33:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Don't know about the milks but the Arizona mountain king has much narrower banding


1.1.0 Arizona mountain king (Sylar and Claire)
0.1.0 Blotched king ( Jasmin)
1.1.0 Guyana red-tail boa (Hercules and Athena)
1.0.1 children (Alfie and BUMP)

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saddleninja
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United Kingdom
119 Posts

Posted - 08/11/2008 :  20:03:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
those milks have differnt colour banding and width of bands

1 amel
1 okeette
2 normals
1 rosy rat x
3 royals
1 cali king
1 publean milk
1 yemen chameleon
2 orange spotted agamas
1 colombian rainbow boa
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t_king
Egg

United Kingdom
61 Posts

Posted - 09/11/2008 :  10:51:55  Show Profile  Click to see t_king's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Ok cool! =D
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Triangulum
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569 Posts

Posted - 10/11/2008 :  15:01:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi There,

It's difficult to spot the difference between them all. However, The main rule is the amount of red bands. Aswell as difference length and stockyness.

Sinaloan Milksnake

The Sinaloans on average have 10-16 Red Bands, Usually 13-16. The Sinaloans is a slim milksnake and usually don't get much larger then 4ft. The Sinaloans are well known for there bright red bands and do not develop black tippings of the scales.



Pueblan Milksnake

The Pueblans on average have 13-17 Red Bands, Usually 15-16. Unlike the Sinaloans, They are alot smaller in length (3-3.5ft) and much stockier. The shape of the head in comparasent to a Sinaloan is much blunter and rounder.



Arizona Mountain Kingsnake

The Mountain Kingsnakes have excessive amount of bands compared to most Milksnakes. Arizonia's have 40-46 on average. However some specimens will be darker and carry more bands on the tail. Most Mountain Kingsnakes do not loose there coloration and patterning, the colors do not fade like that of most Milksnakes. They usually reach 3.5-4ft in length.



Scott

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Triangulum
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United Kingdom
569 Posts

Posted - 10/11/2008 :  15:03:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry, The Pueblan Picture is off a Sinaloan. This is what was meant to be there;
Hi There,



Scott

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magneticblue
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United Kingdom
1511 Posts

Posted - 10/11/2008 :  15:40:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nice one, Meltos


1.1.0 Arizona mountain king (Sylar and Claire)
0.1.0 Blotched king ( Jasmin)
1.1.0 Guyana red-tail boa (Hercules and Athena)
1.0.1 children (Alfie and BUMP)

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Crimson King
Egg

USA
93 Posts

Posted - 16/11/2008 :  09:57:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hatchlings

sinaloan

will have much wider red than the others. (Usually 2-3 times as wide as the black/white)

pueblans

will have wider white rings (this one is apricot where usually white)

az mtn. kings



will have white nose and more bands

Cal mtn kings

will generally have a black nose

ruthven's kings

have black nose and a bit farther back and
tend to end up "grayish" as adults where the white was as juvies.

here's an albino ruthven's for good meeasure..:)


:Mark

www.crimsonking.piczo.com

Edited by - Crimson King on 16/11/2008 10:06:18
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guypettigrew
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
10 Posts

Posted - 17/11/2008 :  20:32:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here's a good site for seeing some of the differences.

http://www.pitt.edu/~mcs2/herp/Lampropeltis.html

How do you get hyperlinks to work on here, please?

Guy
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lewy
King Snake Admin

United Kingdom
25000023 Posts

Posted - 17/11/2008 :  20:41:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just like that Guy - Love the albino ruthven's Mark!!

Lewy

THE KING SNAKE.co.uk Team


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