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GirlHarry
Hatchling

United Kingdom
269 Posts

Posted - 25/05/2009 :  00:18:47  Show Profile  Click to see GirlHarry's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
hi guys, a little worried , i fed strawbs her usual 3 fuzzies tonight and on the 3rd she attacked it from the size, managed to turn it around 'face-first', but in the process a piece of wood chippings clung to the mouse and went down first!! She let the fuzz go, and looked up towards me whilst trying to nom the piece of wood. it went down and i'd say it was half the width of my little finger nail and about as long as it.

I was wondering if anyone else has experienced this?? Will it cause her any harm or will she be able to pass it?

Thanks!






0.1.0 Albino Nelson's Milk (Strawbs)
0.1.0 Royal Python (Velvet)
0.0.1 Corn Snake (Dave)

lee2308
Kingsnake Forum Admin

United Kingdom
1609 Posts

Posted - 25/05/2009 :  10:53:10  Show Profile  Click to see lee2308's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
what subsrate was it?

1.0 dumeril boa,0.1 bci boa,1.0 royal python,1.0 mbk kingsnake,1.0corn,1.2 chinese water dragon,0.0.1 bearded dragon

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magneticblue
Kingsnake Forum Admin

United Kingdom
1511 Posts

Posted - 25/05/2009 :  11:35:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sylar has in the past swallowed some aspen and hasn't caused him any problems. Keep an eye on her in case she can't deal with it but with a bit of luck she should be fine.


1.1.0 Arizona mountain king (Sylar and Claire)
0.1.0 Blotched king ( Jasmin)
1.1.0 Guyana red-tail boa (Hercules and Athena)
1.0.1 children (Alfie and BUMP)

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jono2411
Yearling

United Kingdom
655 Posts

Posted - 25/05/2009 :  12:36:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i dont think stawbs bedding is aspen, i seem to remember from some of the pics that it is like wood chips or something along those lines...

1.0.0 Mexican Black Kingsnake : Baron Samedi
0.0.1 Apricot Pueblan Milksnake : (Hercule) Poirot
0.1.0 Striped Splotched Sinaloan Milksnake : Arminia
0.1.0 Pueblacorn - Cleopatra
0.0.3 Fire-Bellied Toads: Ghengis Khan, Bruce Lee & Chairman Mao

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jono2411
Yearling

United Kingdom
655 Posts

Posted - 25/05/2009 :  12:37:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yeah, here are the pics...
http://www.thekingsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=372

1.0.0 Mexican Black Kingsnake : Baron Samedi
0.0.1 Apricot Pueblan Milksnake : (Hercule) Poirot
0.1.0 Striped Splotched Sinaloan Milksnake : Arminia
0.1.0 Pueblacorn - Cleopatra
0.0.3 Fire-Bellied Toads: Ghengis Khan, Bruce Lee & Chairman Mao

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GirlHarry
Hatchling

United Kingdom
269 Posts

Posted - 25/05/2009 :  14:08:36  Show Profile  Click to see GirlHarry's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
yeah jono's right, wood chips. Well the piece was tiny and i reckon she could pass it, i just hope it wont do her any harm on it's journey from her mouth to her poop. hmms. what are the signs that she's in difficulty?





0.1.0 Albino Nelson's Milk (Strawbs)
0.1.0 Royal Python (Velvet)
0.0.1 Corn Snake (Dave)
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Gingerpony
SerpentSeven's Evil Twin

United Kingdom
726 Posts

Posted - 25/05/2009 :  16:07:35  Show Profile  Click to see Gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
TBH, there aren't many!!
if you notice her behaving anything other than as normal, like if she's quieter than usual, i'd get her to the vet and tell them about the swallowed substrate.
keep an eye out for any unusual swelling, if handling her any places where she seems tender, or signs she's straining to pass something.
but hopefully it was a small enough piece to not be an issue

cornsnakes, ratsnakes, Dumerils boas, BCO hybrids, Sinder Hypo boas, Day Geckos
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GirlHarry
Hatchling

United Kingdom
269 Posts

Posted - 25/05/2009 :  21:24:00  Show Profile  Click to see GirlHarry's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Okay, thank you guys. i'll keep you updated!





0.1.0 Albino Nelson's Milk (Strawbs)
0.1.0 Royal Python (Velvet)
0.0.1 Corn Snake (Dave)
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Kazerella
King Snake Admin

United Kingdom
1512 Posts

Posted - 26/05/2009 :  09:33:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hope she's alright?

This is one of the reasons we always feed outside the viv. It takes longer but safer in the long run.

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theonlydarrenever
Hatchling

129 Posts

Posted - 26/05/2009 :  19:13:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hey guys,

strawbs seems to be doing well. she's going pale so i suspect a shed soon. she's taken a massive poop in her warm hide which i've cleaned up. couldn't see any wood stuck in it though. hopefully she'll be fine. she's still got a little bump from her feed but i guess that'll go down soon.

she's acting the same as she always does though so that's a good thing :D

1.1.0 - honduran milk snake
1.0.1 - royal python
0.0.1 - carolina corn snake



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lee2308
Kingsnake Forum Admin

United Kingdom
1609 Posts

Posted - 26/05/2009 :  19:20:56  Show Profile  Click to see lee2308's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
it should pass,i would of thought they eat more rubbish in the wild and pass it,thats not to say that we should not try and prevent it,but it happens.I have chased mine round the viv with the tongs trying to to retrieve aspen out of his mouth.

1.0 dumeril boa,0.1 bci boa,1.0 royal python,1.0 mbk kingsnake,1.0corn,1.2 chinese water dragon,0.0.1 bearded dragon


Edited by - lee2308 on 26/05/2009 19:25:40
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Gingerpony
SerpentSeven's Evil Twin

United Kingdom
726 Posts

Posted - 26/05/2009 :  20:00:25  Show Profile  Click to see Gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lee2308

I have chased mine round the viv with the tongs trying to to retrieve aspen out of his mouth.

sounds more fun than me trying to retrieve the tongs from Marilyn's mouth the other week.......................

cornsnakes, ratsnakes, Dumerils boas, BCO hybrids, Sinder Hypo boas, Day Geckos
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lee2308
Kingsnake Forum Admin

United Kingdom
1609 Posts

Posted - 26/05/2009 :  20:11:55  Show Profile  Click to see lee2308's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
lol,can just picture it

1.0 dumeril boa,0.1 bci boa,1.0 royal python,1.0 mbk kingsnake,1.0corn,1.2 chinese water dragon,0.0.1 bearded dragon

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Gingerpony
SerpentSeven's Evil Twin

United Kingdom
726 Posts

Posted - 27/05/2009 :  12:11:01  Show Profile  Click to see Gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
seriously, i wasn't laughing!!!

4 inches of tongs went down before i managed to retrieve them, she's so bloody strong my arms ached for days from wrestling with her!

cornsnakes, ratsnakes, Dumerils boas, BCO hybrids, Sinder Hypo boas, Day Geckos
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lee2308
Kingsnake Forum Admin

United Kingdom
1609 Posts

Posted - 27/05/2009 :  12:33:33  Show Profile  Click to see lee2308's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
lol,thats making me laugh more now,the thought of you wrestling with a snake over a pair of tongs,your supposed to let go of the prey once it's in their mouth.

1.0 dumeril boa,0.1 bci boa,1.0 royal python,1.0 mbk kingsnake,1.0corn,1.2 chinese water dragon,0.0.1 bearded dragon

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matty18714
Moderator

United Kingdom
450 Posts

Posted - 27/05/2009 :  12:55:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lee2308

your supposed to let go of the prey once it's in their mouth.



You still havent mastered that yet Ali?

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