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Kazerella Posted - 09/04/2009 : 16:07:24
I've just seen something strange.

I'm cleaning out the monster snake vivs (Trilby and Nagini) and because between them they have so much stuff I have to wash and disinfect it in the bath. Put Trilby's stuff in ok, then moved Nagini's stuff in and there was some poo on the side of her hide (dirty she is). Only trouble is it was fizzing in the water - like alca-selzar in water. Never seen that before. Wonder why that happened?
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Kazerella Posted - 15/04/2009 : 18:29:40
No swimming pool smell Maybe Lewy has been feeding her Sherbet lemons
CharlieD Posted - 15/04/2009 : 15:38:00
Wow Chemistry and snakes on the samae page... That's made my day..

Interesting question though....

Do I get a single gold star for pointing out the small flaw in the logic???

Solid calcium (soft silvery metal) is highly reactive and loves water.. Nagini, being a living thing is probably about 70 % water, as is the rest of the poop so the fizzing would happen long before it leaves the snake which if it didn't explode from the pressure would have holes burnt in the side of her..... Not a nice thought.. sorry!!

The calcium in snake poo will already be in a harmless state such as calcium hydroxide or calcium carbonate.. Even if this was left in direct contact with the heat mat for a month would unlikely reduce to the oxide which may fizz on contact with the water which is possible, sort of.. Alternatively there may have been a reaction between the bleach in the cleaning fluid and the acidity in the poop (from digestion liquids) which would give off chlorine gas... Did it by chance smell of swimmingpools??

Nice mix of chemistry and snakes though.. Very impressed.
PunkAsF82 Posted - 14/04/2009 : 19:19:39
Considering the HIGH calcium content of snake poop, I would agree with Kehhlyr

Calcium is highly reactive with even the smallest bit of water. The fizzing would be the release of hydrogen :P

*Self acalimed science geek*
Kazerella Posted - 11/04/2009 : 15:39:56
You can't have a 'Get out of kingering free' card Magnectic - you dissed me on the last post I read.

Your on the 'at risk of stepping' list too
lee2308 Posted - 10/04/2009 : 23:32:50
quote:
Originally posted by magneticblue

Just realised. Mine are silver


lol
magneticblue Posted - 10/04/2009 : 23:21:24
Just realised. Mine are silver
magneticblue Posted - 10/04/2009 : 23:20:42
quote:
Originally posted by Carl

I wouldnt mind 3 gold stars how do you get them?



You get 300 posts.

This is my 300th post
magneticblue Posted - 10/04/2009 : 23:19:53
Hold on. I still dont have a 'get out of Kingering' card
lee2308 Posted - 10/04/2009 : 16:12:41
got my "get out of kingering card"
Kehhlyr Posted - 10/04/2009 : 15:13:05
quote:
Originally posted by Carl

I wouldnt mind 3 gold stars how do you get them?



The easiest way is by telling everyone and anyway that Kaz is the best.

If you do it properly, she gives you a 'get out of kingering' card as well.

magneticblue Posted - 10/04/2009 : 14:57:20
quote:

I can remember reading once about calcium reacting with water, and seeing as there's calcium in snake poo (the yellowy-white stuff) I decided to look it up.
It seemed a plausable explanation.
I have to much time on my hands as well.



Well done to you anyway
Carl Posted - 10/04/2009 : 14:55:39
I wouldnt mind 3 gold stars how do you get them?
Kazerella Posted - 10/04/2009 : 10:25:19
Sounds good Kehhlyr

You can have 3 gold stars
Kehhlyr Posted - 09/04/2009 : 22:40:37
I know, It was the simplest and easiest thing that could be why poo fizzes.

Maybe that should be a sticky Kaz?

Fizzy poo is because H2O + CO2 -> H2CO3 and CaCO3 + H2CO3 -> Ca(HCO3)2

Makes sense, doesn't it.






quote:
Originally posted by magneticblue

How the hell did you find that!


I can remember reading once about calcium reacting with water, and seeing as there's calcium in snake poo (the yellowy-white stuff) I decided to look it up.
It seemed a plausable explanation.
I have to much time on my hands as well.
Carl Posted - 09/04/2009 : 22:29:23
quote:
Originally posted by Kehhlyr

Could have been because of the calcium in the poo.

looky here, stolen from a website:

In what way and in what form does calcium react with water?

Contrary to magnesium placed directly above calcium in the periodic chart, elementary calcium reacts with water at room temperature, according to the following reaction mechanism:

Ca (s) + 2H2O (g) -> Ca(OH)2 (aq) + H2 (g)

This reaction forms calcium hydroxide that dissolves in water as a soda, and hydrogen gas.

Other important calcium reaction mechanisms are erosion reactions. These usually occur when carbon dioxide is present. Under normal conditions calcium carbonate is water insoluble. When carbon dioxide is present carbonic acid is formed, affecting calcium compounds.

The reaction mechanism for carbon weathering is:

H2O + CO2 -> H2CO3 and CaCO3 + H2CO3 -> Ca(HCO3)2

And the total reaction mechanism:

CaCO3 (s) + CO2 (g) + 2H2O (l) -> Ca2+ (aq) + 2 HCO3- (aq)

The product is calcium hydrogen carbonate.


I agree totaly, Especialy the bit about H20 + C02-> H2C03
+CaC03 + H2C03 -> Ca(HC03)2 thats spot on

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